[Ndn-interest] Version-controlled file-syncing/sharing (collaboration with git-annex?)

Alper Kamil Demir akdemir at atu.edu.tr
Wed Apr 16 17:18:56 PDT 2025


Lixia Zhang via Ndn-interest <ndn-interest at lists.cs.ucla.edu>, 16 Nis 2025
Çar, 18:00 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

>
> > On Apr 16, 2025, at 6:04 AM, Kyra <hello at kyra.run> wrote:
> >
> > ......
> >> But it
> >> does, for instance, provide a p2p local-first (while supporting remote
> >> storage/backups with NDN repo) file sync service for a group of users,
> >> and the data can be end-to-end encrypted.
> >
> > Wow, wait—do you mention 'local-first' because you've seen me recently
> share this idea for a local-first e2ee notion-alternative built on Matrix
> (federated graph database synchronization protocol) for collaboration?
> https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/concept-mapping-graph-view-of-tabs-bookmarks-amp-notes/idi-p/37391
>
> the above link gave me an error "Idea Not Found"
>

It worked for me.

>
> About the mentioning of 'local-first': that's been a well-known concept
> for some time now.  e.g. at IETF 118 (Nov'23) DIN RG meeting, Martin
> Kleppmann gave a greate talk on "Local-First Software"
> (see https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/session/dinrg for the talk
> slides and recording)
>
> > That was more of a pipe dream, because I don't think e2ee could be done
> properly with git-annex (or a hypothetical pijul-annex) given using one
> DRCS/DVCS or another as the data/revision store since the whole thing could
> only be encrypted as a blob with a static decryption key, and not for each
> modification in transit between peers with partial or perfect-forward
> secrecy. Maybe down the line someone can work on Matrix on top of NDN.
>
> I dont know Matrix, it sounds like one of the decentralized app efforts.
> AT NDN Community meeting tomorrow (
> https://ndncomm2025.named-data.net/program.html), the first talk will be
> the design of Ownly followed by a handson, and the 2nd session is a panel
> discussion on what it takes to develop truly decentralized apps.
>

Thank you very much for your pointers, my professor..


>
> Lixia
>
Could you give me the link for remote participation. I am also joining a
remote hackathon. Good luck to everyone.
Alper


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