[Ndn-interest] NDN protocol principles: no privacy?

Luca Muscariello luca.muscariello at gmail.com
Mon Mar 14 13:45:46 PDT 2016


To my understanding, principles are rules that are mutually exclusive
and from which other rules can be derived.

They are not axioms though. You can disagree.

In the case of privacy, even if you run the network in such default mode,
this cannot be a principle as I cannot derive non private communications
from private communications unless I negate the principle. So  It's not a
principle.

Requiring security on data seems like a principle though as you can build
on this to create private and non private communications.

On Monday, 14 March 2016, Mark Stapp <mjs at cisco.com> wrote:

> ok, but - my suggestion is that the _default_ should be private, not that
> there should not be a way for an application to _ask_ for non-private.
>
> I'm hoping that the ongoing discussion will bring out some examples of
> communication that folks think _belongs_ in-the-clear - where some property
> of the application involved will be compromised if the communication is
> strongly protected and confidential. I think that it's going to be
> difficult to make much of a case there, given the capabilities that
> well-designed applications offer in the current internet, but it'd be
> interesting to hear the examples.
>
> and ... I have to say that I don't understand the "principle of
> universality", so ... I think that might be its own thread?
>
> -- Mark
>
> On 3/14/16 3:59 PM, Luca Muscariello wrote:
>
>> Imposing that all communications must be private is in contradiction
>> with the principle of universality as long as the network is supposed to
>> carry any kind of application.
>>
>> So I disagree that privacy is a principle.
>> Not all communications are private.
>>
>> Luca
>>
>>
>>
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